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in 2008, then president elect obama met with john mccain at the obama campaign chicago's headquarters. vice president al gore and george w. bush had a private meeting after gore officially conceded the election. and president clinton gave the defeated bob dole a presidential medal of freedom just days before the second clinton inauguration. other rivals weren't as conciliatory. herbert hoover and franklin d. roosevelt reportedly sat in silence to the inauguration. walter mondale told politico he and ronald reagan never sat down for this kind of conversation. and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it, though, as these two guys today promising to stay in
in 2008, then president elect obama met with john mccain at the obama campaign chicago's headquarters. vice president al gore and george w. bush had a private meeting after gore officially conceded the election. and president clinton gave the defeated bob dole a presidential medal of freedom just days before the second clinton inauguration. other rivals weren't as conciliatory. herbert hoover and franklin d. roosevelt reportedly sat in silence to the inauguration. walter mondale told politico...
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one thing we didn't talk about enough during the election is a lot of people really like barack obama, particularly among the youth and minority voters and a lot of white voters as well really like barack obama. so they missed that. they seemed to think voting in '08 was an aberration and a fluke. that was a wrong assumption. the second thing they missed was a lot of polls, even some of the polls nbc did showed republican enthusiasm was a little higher than democratic enthusiasm in some states. the campaign took that to mean the democrats weren't going to turn out. some tea partiers were really excited but a lot of democrats were just as excited. >> right. karen, into today's "new york times" timothy egan writes, if you believe in climate change, finding a path to citizenship for millions of hard working hispanics, and the right to marry the person you love, there is no place in the republican party of 2012 for you. when you toss in romney's contempt for 47% of the country and the ayn rand budget of paul ryan, it's hard to imagine romney himself believed these internal polls. >> appar
one thing we didn't talk about enough during the election is a lot of people really like barack obama, particularly among the youth and minority voters and a lot of white voters as well really like barack obama. so they missed that. they seemed to think voting in '08 was an aberration and a fluke. that was a wrong assumption. the second thing they missed was a lot of polls, even some of the polls nbc did showed republican enthusiasm was a little higher than democratic enthusiasm in some states....
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over government in the last election. he says they didn't make it. ted cruz says that the real problem with mitt romney's disastrous 47% quote was that it accepted the notion that some people are rich. some people are poor. and that's how the pie looks. and then you redistribute among them. he's saying no. true conservatism -- and we've heard joe say this around the table -- >> absolutely. >> -- true conservatism means that everybody can do anything and that the republican party's missed that message. that's what they need to turn to. >> it's going to be interesting to see how they do that and if ted cruz becomes sort of the force in this. what do you think? what's your gut, mike? >> he's already offering himself -- he clearly wants to play that role. >> yeah. >> he said last night, i'm something that's not supposed to exist, a hispanic republican. so ted cruz is one of the most interesting parts of this reinvention of the republican party. another part of it, the new emphasis on immigration. >> yes. >> the effort to reac
over government in the last election. he says they didn't make it. ted cruz says that the real problem with mitt romney's disastrous 47% quote was that it accepted the notion that some people are rich. some people are poor. and that's how the pie looks. and then you redistribute among them. he's saying no. true conservatism -- and we've heard joe say this around the table -- >> absolutely. >> -- true conservatism means that everybody can do anything and that the republican party's...
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president obama remarkably consistent in his intent to raise taxes on the top 2% of taxpayers. half of those are small-business men and women. the entire election season, he did say a number of times since being reelected, and he's not backing off. the president and his baath insist on higher taxes for the so-called wealthy. remarkably, republicans seem surprised by secretary geithner. chief correspondent ed henry with our report. reporter: optimism faded as timothy geithner let the republicans to declare the talks are going nowhere. >> i'm disappointed. i'm disappointed in where we are and what has happened over the last couple of weeks. i'm here trying to seriously resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get to it as well. reporter: a key driver is that the president announced that spending cuts can wait. >> it would give us more time the next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down the deficit. jay carney broke new ground by declaring that the president does on spending cuts within the budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> ca
president obama remarkably consistent in his intent to raise taxes on the top 2% of taxpayers. half of those are small-business men and women. the entire election season, he did say a number of times since being reelected, and he's not backing off. the president and his baath insist on higher taxes for the so-called wealthy. remarkably, republicans seem surprised by secretary geithner. chief correspondent ed henry with our report. reporter: optimism faded as timothy geithner let the republicans...
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i thought the election was much more pro-obama in the results than i expect. won a strong victory, a solid mandate. are they stunned by that? >> yeah, in some respects they are and trying to grapple with what happened and how their expectations got so high and how they felt -- >> stu stevens right now think tonight we're trying to figure that out. are they still going to the tea leaves? what happened here? >> there's a bit of that. romney, himself, the data guy, going through the numbers trying to figure out what happened and what went wrong and when. i think they'll be doing that for a while. you know, i don't think it's something that's fading for romney. i mean, i think he still thinks about this an awful lot. >> doug brinkley, honor to have you on as always. doug brinkley, author of the great book on cronkite. it's really a good history of, well, recent american history going all the way back to world war ii. it's a great book. anyway, we'll be right back. doug brinkley, thank you. matt viser of the great "boston globe." you're watching "hardball." axiron,
i thought the election was much more pro-obama in the results than i expect. won a strong victory, a solid mandate. are they stunned by that? >> yeah, in some respects they are and trying to grapple with what happened and how their expectations got so high and how they felt -- >> stu stevens right now think tonight we're trying to figure that out. are they still going to the tea leaves? what happened here? >> there's a bit of that. romney, himself, the data guy, going through...
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he gets elected by 51% of the vote. mark my words, sean hannity, if the republicans cave this time, they'll get the same results that reagan and bush 41 got, which spends tax and no spending cuts. >> sean: we have a spending problem. why do it now? must raise the tax rates, my way or the highway, give me my way first. what kind of negotiation is that? and what's his plan? >> i don't think it is a my way or the highway. bill, sorry, i know that you love to look at my green eyes in person, i'm in l.a. today, sorry about that, but if we look back to 30 years, when we had a different congress, a different president, a different demographic in the american voter, that's crazy. the president has agreed to cuts, which, by the way, is going to hurt me personally, because my husband is a doctor, but we're talking $400 billion in medicare cuts in the future. >> sean: in the future? >> yes. >> sean: years from now. >> this plan sticks to the framework of -- >> sean: tax increases now. republicans give in. then the cuts in the futu
he gets elected by 51% of the vote. mark my words, sean hannity, if the republicans cave this time, they'll get the same results that reagan and bush 41 got, which spends tax and no spending cuts. >> sean: we have a spending problem. why do it now? must raise the tax rates, my way or the highway, give me my way first. what kind of negotiation is that? and what's his plan? >> i don't think it is a my way or the highway. bill, sorry, i know that you love to look at my green eyes in...
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in 2010 you found yourself on the wrong end of a wave election. people blame barack obama and the state of the economy, health care, what have you. now in 2012 you come back and you beat the guy who beat you and you're back, soon to be, in congress. tell me what lessons you learned in 2012? what was in your mind in a swing state of new hampshire the 2012 election about and what does it carry forward? >> well, first, let me say in 2010 there was a lot of misinformation about health care and about other issues we were voting on. and so people were understandably frightened and now as the health care law is being carried out they recognize that this is a very consumer friendly law. and so that has changed. the issues in this past election the proper role of government, and i was running against the tea partier who wanted to shut down so much of government functions and people recognize that they really do want to have good government. but they do want efficient government and they want to make sure they're watching out for their tax dollars. they do
in 2010 you found yourself on the wrong end of a wave election. people blame barack obama and the state of the economy, health care, what have you. now in 2012 you come back and you beat the guy who beat you and you're back, soon to be, in congress. tell me what lessons you learned in 2012? what was in your mind in a swing state of new hampshire the 2012 election about and what does it carry forward? >> well, first, let me say in 2010 there was a lot of misinformation about health care...
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and say we need a bailout, we did vote for president obama in the last election. give us a bailout. they you think that will happen? >> and all too real possibility. the governor refuses to rule out asking or accepting future federal bailout and a freeze keep sitting on our hands doing nothing the problem will get worse and that will be a federal bailout. and ask taxpayers of other states, folks who have their act together to fix our politicians's mess. >> i have been saying for a long time i think a bailout request will come. maybe they are denying it but i think it is going to come. in california same situation, ill. same situation. both of those that -- voted for president obama, a bailout request is coming but absent that, what plan could they put in place in illinois to deal with this? got any ideas? >> it is simple, we have to follow the lead of the private sector and transition to the fine contribution plan. pensions are broke. trying to fix our system would be like bailing out the titanic with a dixie cup. you have to do right by state workers and the best way to do that is
and say we need a bailout, we did vote for president obama in the last election. give us a bailout. they you think that will happen? >> and all too real possibility. the governor refuses to rule out asking or accepting future federal bailout and a freeze keep sitting on our hands doing nothing the problem will get worse and that will be a federal bailout. and ask taxpayers of other states, folks who have their act together to fix our politicians's mess. >> i have been saying for a...
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you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement for obama. i felt it myself obviously at the rallies we'd go to. all the speeches. this time around it was an effective excitement. it wasn't we love this guy's speeches. the speeches weren't that great this time by obama but it was effectively excited because they decided to vote for other reasons. how come it wasn't palpable that this guy was going to get the same turnout he got last time? >> well, it was clear to joel bennenson who was the obama pollster and who got it right on the money. it was clear in the average polls. i think john is right about this, there was an assumption inside the party that there was going to be a different electorate. >> did you see it, bob? did you see the excitement this time we both saw in '08 for obama? >> of course you didn't see the same level of excitement but i saw a level of determination that was intense. i saw people waiting for hours in line in the polls. i'll tell you one other thing. you cannot explain simply by your conception of what the electorate
you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement for obama. i felt it myself obviously at the rallies we'd go to. all the speeches. this time around it was an effective excitement. it wasn't we love this guy's speeches. the speeches weren't that great this time by obama but it was effectively excited because they decided to vote for other reasons. how come it wasn't palpable that this guy was going to get the same turnout he got last time? >> well, it was clear to joel...
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>> i absolutely do, because they all seem to have reached a crescendo once president obama was elected. so i don't see how people could think there's not a racial component. and it's unfortunate, though, when you point that out, they want to push back and say you're using the race card, but the reality is that the attacks on this president are unprecedented. the reality is, also, that he's needed security and had more secret service threats against him based on race than anybody else in the history of the presidency. and those are real issues and louie gohmert is playing into it and that's also what makes this so irresponsible. >> you think their hatred for the president plays out in the legislative processes as well? i know it does. i mean, i believe it does. they, 368 filibusters. i mean, they don't want anything to do through from his agenda. they come up with the wildest conspiracy theories that we've ever heard. now, of course, the bombing of libya. i mean, it's pretty outrageous. how -- do you think in some certain ways that this is a motivating factor for the progressive base? >
>> i absolutely do, because they all seem to have reached a crescendo once president obama was elected. so i don't see how people could think there's not a racial component. and it's unfortunate, though, when you point that out, they want to push back and say you're using the race card, but the reality is that the attacks on this president are unprecedented. the reality is, also, that he's needed security and had more secret service threats against him based on race than anybody else in...
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president obama just won re-election, so he can claim he has a mandate. i don't think it's a mandate to raise taxes, increase the size of government and put us further in debt. that's his argument. that's the process of self government. the american people will have to take a grip, not just washington, but look at how bad things are in illinois and california and new york. several of our states are very, very bads shape. >> greta: california will be interesting to watch, because they have a democratic governor, democratic legislatures now, and they've got big problems. so california is -- the democrats in california have a chance to either, you know, make things look really good or let things look very bad. at least i'm keeping my eye on that state. >> that's a key indicator of the future. i can tell you, a place like texas, they're thrilled the number of californians leaving and moving to texas. that's happening all across the west. california is exporting some of its hardest-working, best entrepreneurs, because they've given up. i was with a man just ye
president obama just won re-election, so he can claim he has a mandate. i don't think it's a mandate to raise taxes, increase the size of government and put us further in debt. that's his argument. that's the process of self government. the american people will have to take a grip, not just washington, but look at how bad things are in illinois and california and new york. several of our states are very, very bads shape. >> greta: california will be interesting to watch, because they have...
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president obama held his first press conference today. since being re-elected. and, you know what, he just had fun with it. he really did. four years ago when obama took office, he established a system where citizens can petition the government and if a petition gets more than 25,000 signatures, he promised he would respond to it. so, after obama won last week, citizens in all 50 states filed petitions to secede from the union. the guy they supported didn't win, so, now they want their own separate countries, i guess. which is silly, but whatever. the state with the longest petition is texas, texas has more than 100,000 signatures, which exceeds the minimum of 25,000. so, today, the obama administration, as promised, responded to this. >> hey. how you doing? i'm anthony caprise, president obama's special envoy for talking to the people from seceding from the [ bleep ] union. president obama got your little petition. he read it, he mulled it over and here's his response. nobody -- nobody is seceding from no union. nobody! you got it, texas? good. now, go eat some
president obama held his first press conference today. since being re-elected. and, you know what, he just had fun with it. he really did. four years ago when obama took office, he established a system where citizens can petition the government and if a petition gets more than 25,000 signatures, he promised he would respond to it. so, after obama won last week, citizens in all 50 states filed petitions to secede from the union. the guy they supported didn't win, so, now they want their own...
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. >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. that's ahead. oney. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> a small but symbolic victory for palestinians today. the united nations assembly voted overwhelmingly to grant palestinians what's called nonmember observer state status, a stinging defeat for the united states and israel, which voted against the resolution. the secretary of state hillary clinton condemned the decision as quote, counterproductive to peace efforts. the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., susan rice, warned that little will change in the palestinian territories after this vote. palestinians in gaza and the
. >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. that's ahead. oney. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his...
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the fastest knew right wing gunslinger in texas, senator elect ted cruz explaining it this way. up want to know why obama won 75% of the hispanic vote, tone on immigration contributed but i think far more important was the 47%. oh, yeah, the big romney call for self-deportation had nothing to do with it. nor did the gop's slew of other extremist position on immigration. and then there's mr. on-air meltdown himself, karl rove, the former gop king-maker. why not just come right out and call him the man who blew through $300 million? he said in his speech, he's no longer suicidal that president won. well, that's a relief. now mr. rove is just, quote, despondent. and here's his new theory on why they lost. what splinters the republican party is intolerant and judgmental language and an unwillingness to acknowledge differences. so the big mystery the republicans have figured out their party just sounds to me is about their language. it's about their tone. nothing about their far right policies. hey, mr. rove, we fell for this before. remember the compassionate conservative? joining m
the fastest knew right wing gunslinger in texas, senator elect ted cruz explaining it this way. up want to know why obama won 75% of the hispanic vote, tone on immigration contributed but i think far more important was the 47%. oh, yeah, the big romney call for self-deportation had nothing to do with it. nor did the gop's slew of other extremist position on immigration. and then there's mr. on-air meltdown himself, karl rove, the former gop king-maker. why not just come right out and call him...
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. ♪ >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! >>> a small but symbolic victory for palestinians today. the united nations assembly voted overwhelmingly to grant palestinians what's called nonmember observer state status, a stinging defeat for the united states and israel, which voted against the resolution. the secretary of state hillary clinton condemned the decision as quote, counterproductive to peace efforts. the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., susan rice, warned that little will change in the palestinian territories after this vote. palestinians in gaza and the west bank flooded into the streets late into the night. they are shooting fireworks, waving flags, ho
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. >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. >>> a small but symbolic victory for palestinians today. the united nations assembly voted overwhelmingly to grant palestinians what's called nonmember observer state status, a stinging defeat for the united states and israel, which voted against the resolution. the secretary of state hillary clinton condemned the decision as quote, counterproductive to peace efforts. the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., susan rice, warned that little will change in the palestinian territories after this vote. palestinians in gaza and the west bank flooded into the streets late into the night. they are shooting fireworks, waving flags, honking car horns in celebration. let's go live to cnn's fred pleitgen in ramallah with the latest. very big day for the palestinians. what are you seeing now? >> reporter: hi, wolf. well, the celebrations certainly have quieted down somewhat but it was really just in the past ten minutes that they
. >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. >>> a small but symbolic victory for palestinians today. the united nations assembly voted overwhelmingly to grant palestinians what's called nonmember observer state status, a stinging defeat for the united states and israel, which voted against the resolution. the secretary of state hillary clinton condemned...
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previously covered the 2008 presidential election where he traveled with the obama campaign. nick, i will turn the podium over to you now. >> thank you. let's have everybody take the seat. thank you all, and thank you for coming. i look forward to our discussion this afternoon. instead of doing opening statements from each speaker, i will ask a generic question that can maybe help frame the discussion, and then it will go from there. sarah, i will start with you. we will go in reverse alphabetical order. the question i posed to you is maybe if you could identify the most important lesson that we should draw from the experience of the past five years with respect to the fha, and then part of that i might ask is whether lawmakers and taxpayers should be prepared to accept some level of loss, given the housing recession that we have been through. sarah, i will start with you. >> thanks, and i have to say how much fun is to be back debt cap -- to be back at cap. the big lesson regarding fha is a core concept of the federal housing policy worked. it did not work as well as we like
previously covered the 2008 presidential election where he traveled with the obama campaign. nick, i will turn the podium over to you now. >> thank you. let's have everybody take the seat. thank you all, and thank you for coming. i look forward to our discussion this afternoon. instead of doing opening statements from each speaker, i will ask a generic question that can maybe help frame the discussion, and then it will go from there. sarah, i will start with you. we will go in reverse...
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the white house -- they released this photo of their first meeting since the end of the election. governor romney is said to have congratulated the president and the two had a discussion that lasted more than an hour. >> friday on "washington journal," a congressional historian gives a history of the filibuster rule in the senate and explains the changes the senate leader harry reid is pursuing. at 8:00, a guest from political examines key tax credits aimed at families and businesses that would be impacted if congress does not act in the so-called fiscal cliff. "washington journal is live starting at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> the program began under a man who was one of the advisers to president franklin roosevelt. to document the conditions under which people were living. this was back when you did not have television. we had radio, but a lot of places did not have electricity so they could not listen to the broadcast to find out what was happening in other parts of the country. he was an economist from columbia university. the head of this project -- in 1939, when kodak in
the white house -- they released this photo of their first meeting since the end of the election. governor romney is said to have congratulated the president and the two had a discussion that lasted more than an hour. >> friday on "washington journal," a congressional historian gives a history of the filibuster rule in the senate and explains the changes the senate leader harry reid is pursuing. at 8:00, a guest from political examines key tax credits aimed at families and...
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election is over, iran's isn't until june. >> president obama's instinct, to try to see if iran is amenable to negotiations is the right one because that will tell us whether or not iran is serious about stopping short of a nuclear weapon. >> tehran under pressure, its economy in shambles after years of sanctions for not letting inspectors into all the facilities. now they want to show the world they've exhausted diplomatic options. >> the question is, is there a deal that we could accept that the iranians could accept. i tend to be skeptical. >> of course, iran and the u.s. have other big disagreements over iran's military aid to the regime in syria and rockets that smuggle to hamas. in the second term, no foreign policy challenge is more critical. the president has been dealing with iran's suspected nuclear threats. >> andrea mitchell in washington. thanks so much. >>> egypt islamists approved a draft constitution this morning that could further enrage anti-government protesters. it was passed without participation of liberal and christian members. human rights experts fear it could give
election is over, iran's isn't until june. >> president obama's instinct, to try to see if iran is amenable to negotiations is the right one because that will tell us whether or not iran is serious about stopping short of a nuclear weapon. >> tehran under pressure, its economy in shambles after years of sanctions for not letting inspectors into all the facilities. now they want to show the world they've exhausted diplomatic options. >> the question is, is there a deal that we...